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Dichen Lachman on ‘Severance’ Season 2 Finale’s ‘Very Emotional’ Hallway Scene : ‘It Started to Just Feel So Real in That Moment’
Dichen Lachman spoke to Variety about Gemma's emotional journey throughout the 'Severance' Season 2 finale.
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SPOILER ALERT: This story contains spoilers for “Severance” Season 2, Episode 10, now streaming on Apple TV+.
Gemma has finally escaped — sort of.
The “Severance” Season 2 finale gave us the reunion we were waiting for all season. After both Mark’s innie and outie alternate navigating through Lumon’s maze of hallways to find Gemma (Dichen Lachman) on the Testing Floor, the couple start to make their escape together.
For Gemma, a former professor, the escape follows a distressing period of captivity at Lumon after the company faked her death in order to kidnap her, isolated her from the outside world and fractured her mind into several innies. But in that time, her husband Mark (Adam Scott) also became severed in order to deal with mourning her loss, and his innie developed a relationship with Helly (Britt Lower) that creates the pivotal dilemma at the end of Season 2.
Once the two are on the Severed Floor and on the brink of escape, Gemma’s innie Ms. Casey successfully exits into a stairwell. But Mark’s innie hesitates, caught between the obligation toward his outie’s wife and Helly, who’s on the other side of the hall. Gemma, now back in her own mind and locked out of the Severed Floor, cries out for Mark as he returns to Helly.
Popular on VarietyLachman spoke to Variety about Gemma’s emotional journey throughout the finale, filming that intense hallway scene and how Gemma is making sense of her situation after Mark leaves.
I had a feeling, like an instinct, that that would be coming down the road for them. I only saw the episode a few weeks before we started filming those final ones, but I knew that hopefully if everyone was invested in Episode 7, as much as we wanted them to be invested, people would find themselves torn between whether he goes with Gemma or whether he goes with Helly. And I mean, I hope that that’s how people feel because that’s the conundrum, right? Episode 7 was our opportunity to get the audience to feel and understand that relationship between Mark and Gemma and why he would have ultimately gotten severed in the first place because the grief was unbearable. And then ultimately why he has the garage brain surgery to go and save her. It had to feel like a really lived-in relationship that felt real.
Courtesy of Apple TV+We tried it a lot of different ways. The broad strokes were the same, but with different levels of intensity. When she goes in, this room has very little context. And I made the choice that, just like Mark builds the tree out of clay in the Wellness Center with Ms. Casey, because in that innie’s subconscious, it’s there, he’s recollecting something from his outie, right? But he just doesn’t understand, like, why? So for that scene, I decided that she goes into this room, there’s no one else there, and she sees this thing [a crib], and it feels familiar, but she doesn’t know why. Have you been to a place, or you’ve met somebody, and you’re like, “I feel like I’ve met them”? I mean, maybe we do have innies, I don’t know. But you feel this sense of déjà vu or familiarity, but you don’t know why. So that’s how I approached going into that scene.
Yeah, that was a very tricky transition. There are a lot of tricky transitions in the final episode, because the emotions are so high, and to go from this new innie — who’s a bit confused about what’s happening, but again, innately trusts Mark for some reason, just because in her innie’s subconscious, there’s a familiarity there, she goes with this man, and she’s hesitant, but something’s pushing her along — and then to transition to Gemma, it was a very big leap to make emotionally. Unlike just a normal run-of-the-mill emotional scene where you’re generally building into it, I had to bury it until she transitions. But once she’s out, Adam is such a wonderful scene partner, and the moment is so epic. And maybe it’s because I’ve been living with the character for such a long time that everyone agreed that this scene needed to be like that kind of moment. And basically, once we found it, it was just about capturing it so that the audience could feel what we were feeling.
I think maybe she had hoped, but she’s so far down in the bowels of that building that I don’t know if she ever thought that he would be able to come and save her. I feel like she’s tried to escape a few times. Although in 7 when Sandra [Bernhard] has to peel her off the floor of the elevator, there’s a little part of her that has resigned to the fact that she’s never getting out of here. And that’s sort of the tone of her going into the Cold Harbor room to begin with. She feels a little hopeless.
Courtesy of Apple TV+Ms. Casey’s face and her posture are so different to Gemma’s. That transition emotionally was a little bit easier because Ms. Casey, her physicality and everything is so much of it. I was really happy for Ms. Casey in that moment because I feel like the last two times she’s been alive, Milchick just sends her down this dark hallway, and for her to see Mark again — I think she really felt a deep connection with Mark, and she didn’t know why. But I was excited that Ms. Casey got to have a little moment back on the Severed Floor, even though it was quite intense and harrowing. It’s the innie that I’ve spent the longest time with, and I felt like that was a fun little moment for her.
Yes, my voice was very hoarse after that day. I can’t remember if it was a day or a day-and-a-half because, well, obviously they had to also shoot the other side of that door, like Adam and Britt were on that side. And we had a very long “zolly” shot. Zolly shot is where you’re transitioning, and the camera does that weird thing. I think it’s like a zoom and a move at the same time. For me, at least, I had to often do them on the move, which adds another layer of technicality. And then in this situation, I had to do it on the move, but an extra long distance, so that took a lot of massaging just to get that right.
But then once we’re on the other side of the door, and all the emotions are there, it was very emotional. I had this thing happen to me where I just kept crying for a little bit even after cut. The screaming and the desperate cries to him got so deep, it was a little bit hard to let go afterwards. And it was the props department, they were so kind, they put a padding on the door for me because I was really going for it, banging on that door. But it started to just feel so real in that moment.
I don’t know how much information she has about what else is going on in the building. I think she just assumes or makes this realization that he’s severed, and these people are severed on the other side of that door. Someone earlier was saying, like, “Oh, it’s Mauer’s story, that he met someone else and moved on.” But based on the interaction they have, I don’t think that’s really possible. I think the most reasonable way to interpret that scene is that she realizes he’s severed, and she’s just trying to get through to him. And for me, it’s just like, “Oh, that’s just the innie’s friend or maybe love interest.” I don’t think there’s much time for her to think more deeply about that in that moment. It’s more just a realization.
In that moment when they’re running down the hallway — and God, it’s such beautiful cinematography — I did think about that. And I was like, I think she’s completely devastated, but she’s also finally on the other side of that door, and I’m thinking: Gemma is very intelligent. I think she’s just gonna start, I would imagine, thinking of a solution. Like, how can I fix this?
There are so many different ways it could go when you break it all down. I try not to fantasize about having too many expectations. Dan [Erickson] is so brilliant, and he’s so deliberate about everything that he does, and they’re so precise on this show that I’m just excited to see where they’re going to go with it. I certainly can’t wait to see him; I’m gonna pick his brain. But remember, she has 25 or 24 different innies, and remember, there’s a lot of stuff going on at Lumon that, like, do they have the same control of her mind that they do of the others with the Overtime Contingency? I mean, we don’t know. So I’m keeping my fingers crossed, and excited to see what he comes up with.
This interview has been edited and condensed.
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